November 11th, 1914
Received by James Padgett.
I am here, your grandmother.
Yes, I am here and I wish to tell you that you must not let what
I said to you last night discourage you for I was only trying to
let you know that you must not forget to pray to God for His Blessing.
You were not in a condition to fully understand what I wrote. You
were only in a condition of doubt as to what it was that you should
do in order to feel the influence of my meaning.
Question and Answer:
Yes it is and you must not so worship him. They were not only wrong
in that particular, but they did not understand that Jesus does
not want to be worshipped in that way. They may follow him in his
teachings and example, but must worship only God. You can help them
to see the Truth and you should try to do so.
Yes, I know, but nevertheless you should make the effort for they
must learn that Jesus is only a son of God and is not the God or
any part of Him. He is the one for them to seek and ask his aid
in order to learn the truth. Yes, I know, but they will have to
learn sooner or later that the Holy Spirit is of God and not a medium
of Jesus to bring about their New Birth and entrance into God's
Kingdom. He (God) is the one that confers the blessings of the Spirit
and they will realize it when they receive the Spirits inflow of
Love and Grace. Yes, many have and their influence is good and helpful,
their spirit friends are with them at their meetings and help them
to realize that God is Love and Truth.
Yes, sometimes, but they do not enjoy being there and consequently
do not remain very long or take any part in the services. He is
not present at the various meetings that are held in the several
churches over the whole country, but his truths are there in the
character of spirits who are ordained to do the work of teaching
the truths which he taught and which are the truths of God.
The Holy Spirit is the one that can cause the inflowing of God's
Love and it is present in all meetings as it is without form or
personality. It is the messenger of God and it can be in all places
at the same time so that the penitents no matter how far apart can
receive it's influence and feel it's saving Grace and Love. It is
not necessary for it to use other spirits to carry it's love and
influence. It of itself is able and all comprehending enough to
influence the persons who seek for its inflowing. So do not think
that you have to have Jesus present in order to obtain the blessings
of the Holy Spirit. He meant that when they are gathered together
for the purpose of seeking the Love of God he would be able to help
them feel the influence of the Holy Spirit, he would not have to
be present himself for that purpose, but he would be represented
by the Holy Spirit. No, he cannot, for he is a person and has all
the limitations that belong to the individual. Jesus is not a spirit
in the sense that God is a spirit. He is only an individualized
spirit as you are. He is only a spirit of such wonderful development
that he can control all the spirits of his own manner of thinking
and who have been Born Again into God's Kingdom so that he can have
them do his work just as he teaches them to do. Yes, he can direct
the Holy Spirit in the sense that when the penitent prays for help
the Holy Spirit will respond and fulfill the work that the Father
has provided it to do.
Jesus is the truest exponent of his Father's Truths and he alone
(only) through his teachings can cause the Holy Spirit to enter
the hearts and souls of mankind. No, it is not, for the Father has
given him the power to control all the spirits that are of the Father's
Kingdom of Truth and Love. Christ is not only a spirit of the Father,
but is the one that God gave to Jesus when he anointed him on his
earthly mission. He is the one spirit that cannot be made to do
anything that is contrary to God's Love and Law. No, not in addition
to the spirit that Jesus had, but the spirit that God gave to Jesus
at the time of the anointing.
The spirit that Jesus had before that time became one and the same
with the Christ Spirit - they are now one - Jesus is not a man as
is taught by some writers, but is the Christ of God - a spirit that
is full of God's truths. He is the great dispenser of truths and
he cannot lie nor do anything but what the Father has given him
Yes, Jesus the Spirit is only a spirit as you have a spirit, but
Jesus the Christ is a Spirit that is without form or limitations,
so that he can be everywhere at the same time. Yes, he meant that
he as the Christ would be with all peoples wherever they might be
gathered together seeking his help and teachings, but as Jesus the
mere spirit, he did not mean that he would be with them.
So you may believe that he is with you always in the sense that
he is your Christ. It is Jesus the teacher of truth and not the
Christ, the latter is with you and every one else at all times.
Only the penitent must ask that he let them feel his influence and
teach them the Truth of God, and the fact that the Holy Spirit is
waiting to enter into their hearts and fill them with the Divine
Go to the church where you were last night, as you will be much
more benefited than you will be by attending the other churches.
You will be under the influence of more spirits who have received
the New Birth.
No, not in the sense that the Holy Spirit is in their hearts, they
are only letting their minds become confused with the idea that
Jesus' blood or crucifixion saves them when the fact is the blood
of Jesus or the crucifixion is not necessary, as a matter of belief
to their salvation. The only thing that saves them from their sins
and reconciles them to God is that they must become conscious of
God's Truths and receive the Holy Spirit into their souls. No vicarious
suffering on the part of Jesus is necessary to save them. He never
taught that erroneous doctrine and it is not doing any good by being
taught by the preachers who claim to represent his cause.
No, only in the sense that these things (his blood and crucifixion)
call the attention of mankind to Jesus and his mission on earth.
As between God and man, no blood of Jesus or vicarious suffering
can appease God or save man. God is a God of Love and does not have
any wrath to be appeased. He is only too glad to have his children
come to Him and be at-one with Him. He is not waiting to punish
them or have them suffer because of any wrath that He may be supposed
to have towards them. They suffer only because they have violated
his laws and they must do that which will remove the causes of their
violation of these laws.
Mankind are not the object of God's anger, but are the dear children
of His Love. He is not pleased when they do wrong or when they do
not obey his precepts. Let not the idea that God delights in the
punishment of the wicked make you think that God wants any one of
His children to suffer. He is only too ready to save and have the
sinner come to His Love and Care. He is the one Perfect Love that
You must stop writing now as you won't go to your
Your loving grandmother
This message is a composite of two, being published
in Volume III on page 51 and Volume IV on page 188. For more details
see this page. This message would
benefit greatly from being recreated from the original. It is clear
that Ann Rollins is having difficulty expressing her meaning.