New birth

Messages 2009

Negativity in War.

February 14th, 2009

Santa Cruz, California

Received by FAB


I am here, Wat Tyler.

You take our thoughts perfectly well, so have confidence in your gift.

Ah, it has been so long since death came to me! And I had no idea that the consequences of my actions in the rebellion would be so drastic. I relished the killing I did. I took pleasure in destroying life and property, and for this, I had to suffer. There are always consequences to negative behavior in war. My experience has been a tragic example.

And you have channeled other examples, such as Oliver Cromwell, Che Guevara, and Nat Turner. They all had the same experience I had.

So let me make it clearer. Yes, we English peasants were oppressed. But that didn’t justify our violence in the eyes of God. We did not try to resolve our oppression in a way that would be in harmony with God’s Will. We rebels had a living example in the king, at least at the beginning, but we were determined to do the acts of violence, and so we reaped the consequences.

Now let me enlighten you as to the leaders of your own country [the United States]. I have made the effort to investigate for you, so what I will now say is the direct result of actual conversations with these various spirits. There are those who take pleasure in these things of war. Indeed, your society is not the only one to beat the drums and play the martial music that causes patriotism and the desire to fight. But you have never been of this sort of people.

You have been troubled and confused because the means to independence of your country and following it, the Constitution, was through the path of war. And what also confuses you is that despite intense pressure to end the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln prolonged it, thus increasing the suffering on both sides. So then why was this not accounted for in the judgment?

I have spoken with Abraham Lincoln, and he has told me that it all depended on his soul development. That is, he sincerely, even passionately, felt that the principle of union must be upheld despite the cost. If this resulted in a great bloodbath for four whole years, this could not change the inner reality of the president.

He has told me that uppermost in his heart at all times was to end the war, not prolong it. He has told me that the actual reason why the war dragged on for four bloody years, at least in his opinion, was the utter incompetence of his generals, who seemed to squander any chance of bringing the conflict to its conclusion. It is a paradox, is it not?, that in his heart was a desire to end the war, and yet in reality, he actually prolonged it. But that’s because he saw a greater good, which he felt would not have been achieved had he ended the war any sooner.

He has also told me that he suffered inwardly because of the suffering inflicted on both sides. This was in marked contrast to so many other political leaders, who have never even given any thought, or compassion, to the tragedies that their policies brought about. I can see that Mr. Lincoln’s experience was unique and not at all typical, and that was because of his good soul development, which has often been lacking in political leaders in times of war.

So you can see how different my experience was from Lincoln’s. I was so incensed at the oppression the higher classes caused that I had no regard whatsoever for the lives we ruined. It made no difference in the eyes of God that these victims of mine were from the class that was oppressing me and my people. For the fact was that God Loved every one of these aristocrats as much as He loved us peasants.

And it is certainly a fact that these aristocrats did not, indeed could not, escape the consequences of their actions either. So we were all of us, peasants and landholders and aristocrats, in the same soup, and we were accounted for by exactly the same laws. Oh, the spirit world is truly the great leveler!

Now let me talk about the founding fathers of your nation. There was George Washington. You discovered in your readings that Divine protection was his in several dramatic ways, and he confirms that this indeed was true. He has said that like Abraham Lincoln, he also actually abhorred the violence of war. He said he was hired to do a job as Commander in Chief, and he wanted to serve his country. When the war was successfully over, all he wanted to do was retire to Mount Vernon. And he did actually resign from the army.

But then his country called him again, this time to be president, and so he chose to serve his country again, despite his yearning for a peaceful life in retirement. So you can readily see that his heart was in the right place. And yet he too had certain things rise to face him as well.

As to the other founding fathers, they too had different degrees of positive and negative experiences. John Adams, for example, derived great comfort from his role in defending the British soldiers as their lawyer.

So in conclusion, the facts of war, with all the atrocities and tragedies that war brings, are one thing. Quite another matter is the soul development of those experiencing these unfortunate things. And over and above everything is a Loving Creator who sees into the heart, and who never fails to give His children what is their due.


Walter Tyler, commonly known as Wat Tyler (January 4, 1341 – June 15, 1381) was the leader of the English Peasants’ Revolt of 1381.

Knowledge of Tyler’s early life is very limited, and derives mostly through the records of his enemies. Historians believe he was born in Essex, but are not sure why he crossed the Thames Estuary to Kent, whence he led the revolt. (Source: Wikipedia)